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for the interview. >> and another political big wig takes exception on a big question of where he plans to send his kids to school. >> first off, it is none of your business. >>> and we begin with the debt ceiling fight, and the republicans unable to agree to disagree, and here is the level of confusion coming from the gop on the ongoing debt debate. this morning the washington post set the stage for a potential breakthrough reporting on the editorial page right here that grover norquist, the anti-tax guru of the right said that allowing the bush era tax cuts to expire would not be a violation of the tax pledge that nearly every member of congress has resigned which is a significant concession. problem solved? not exactly. within hours norquist told my colleague chris jansing this right here on msnbc on jansing & company. >> i can be clear, americans for tax reform would oppose any effort to weaken, reduce or not continue the 2001-2003 bush tax cuts and any changes of the taxes should be kept separate from the budget deal. >> moments ago, the post released audio of norquist supporting their editori
guys to protect the fat guys and corporate jets and big super rich. you're expendable now, crack thinkers. don't you understand? they play you against the poor and you're skpentable now. let those guys handle it. they got to protect the big guys. >> now know, that is coming from john mccain whose campaign might be compared to custard, except custer's came out better than mccain's did. in 2012 a conservative will be elected so i think that will speak for itself. his his brand was she lacks in 2007 within 2008. mine won the house of representative by record numbers in 2010. >> yeah, but now your brand of conservative is told, get your butts in line. don't get too big for yourself. because you've done your job. you're saving the corporate jet guys. you're closing in making sure to protect the loops holes. now just shut up and let us handle it, we've got movies it watch. thank you judson phillips. thank you for being here with me. >> thank you for having me. >> hosts of the bill press show on sirius radio, gentlemen, it is quite interesting, looks like mr. boehner is trying to get a
're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. because the public supports a balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not just one sector or a limited number of sectors from the society. >> let's listen to what the president said last night, to voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have voted for divided government, but the
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze these two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do >> i don't think he can do that, chris. when
. the big, brand new nbc "wall street journal" poll, and the revived gang of six which the white house is seizing on to give new life to the president's push for a big deficit reduction deal. the bipartisan group's proposal is still in outline form. they would reduce the deficit by 3.7 trillion over the next decade, cutting discretionary spending, defense spending, overhauling entitlement programs, rewriting the tax code by lowering rates, getting rid of deductions that overall would generate a trillion dollars in those deficit cuts. the plan got an enthusiastic reception from the white house and senate rank and file. watch. >> we now have a bipartisan group of senators who agree with that balanced approach. we have got the american people who agree with that balanced approach. >> 49 senators came to the room, and you know what, there were no fist fights, there were no -- there was no swearing. >> i think they're creating a vital center on what is the most important issue facing the country. >> it is a great start and it has provided great leadership. >>> but senate leaders mitch mccon
rchts good wepz, everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. the big story right now the phone hacking scandal in great britain reaches the highest echelons of government. with prime minister david cameron facing cheers and jeers in an uncommon emergency session of the house of commons. >> i have an old fashioned view about innocent until proven guilty. >> prime minister david cameron addressing the house of commons. >> if it turns out andy coulson knew about the hacking at the news of the world he will not only have lied to me, but he would have lied to the police, to a select committee torque the press complaints commission, and of course, perjured himself in a court of law. >> former news of the world ed tore andy coulson was until january cameron's communications director. >> with 20/20 hindsight and all that has followed i would not have offered him the job and i expect that he wouldn't have taken it. >> coulson was arrested this month suspected of corruption in the u.s. voice mail hacking and police bribery scandal. >> you live and you learn and believ
. if you do nothing, you have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> h
the two minnesotans continues. tim pawlenty went after michele bachmann. >> there's a big difference in talking about things and getting them done. >> this is the third day in a row where we have seen tim pawlenty heat up in his rhetoric against michele bachmann. it's clearly trying to set up the two of them as they go mono on mono for this straw poll. what is interesting, there was a republican debate before the straw poll that takes place in iowa. so instead of everyone going after mitt romney, it's clear that there's going to be a little mini debate going on. all of that in the shadow of what is going on with rick perry and chris christie showing up. lots to go through. we're going to get to that later in the show. let's get to the big story. there's one week left to raise the debt ceiling. two sides feel like they are farther apart than ever. serving on the budget committee, senator, let's start with what is on the table. can you support harry reid's plan as it stands right now in the united states senate? >> no. but i don't think that we're that far apart, chuck. if you take the
to happen here with rupert murdoch and his son james tomorrow? >> well, that is certainly, that is the big question. and rupert murdoch and his son james, and rebekah brooks, who are appearing before the select committee have to be so careful, and so careful in fact, that rupert murdoch's biographers saying he is in rehearsals and being coached by aides and he is walking a fine line, because on one hand, he is under oath, and so like he and his son and rebekah brooks, they can't lie. if they do lie, it is a crime. so they have to be careful what they say. they can't mislead this group, but at the same time, they don't want to give too much away either, because this is such a reprehensible difficult and negative story that any facts on how to what extent the criminality of how far it went up the ladder at any of the companies as the facts come out, it could well, we could well see a drop from the bottom just out of news corporation. today, already, tamron, we saw a 5% jump in news corp stock in australia. so that the wheels of this amazing story just keep rolling along, and you mentioned in
that she could catch fire. look, when you start this thing, when you win iowa, if you win iowa big, that thing starts rolling through new hampshire and south carolina, it's over in weeks. i agree 100%. >> how was she going in philadelphia suburbs? how is she going to do in the i-4 corridor and in wisconsin? how is she going to do in new mexico, arizona? i would suggest, with swing voters not well at all. >> there's no doubt if you nominate michele bachmann, it's an enormous risk. the only conditions, i think, under which i believe she could win the presidency, if people say, if they did in 1980, i don't care, i'm taking a chance with this guy because what we got we can't stand, you get 9% or 10% unemployment, two more years, this country is ready for a lot of change. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart.  finally, there's a choice for my patients with an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation, or afib, that's not cause
're going to see something between the reid and boehner plans, the big difference is the boehner plan forces us to raise the debt ceiling again and forces us to accept a $1.8 trillion or more in cuts from the so-called super commission, and if we don't do it, we go through another crises. also a vote on the budget amendment. i think you could get something more rationalal to incentivize another plan down the road and have something with enough pressure coming from the markets, both parties could vote for. >> you make it sound like if reasonable people had a conversation about this there might actually be a solution, so thanks for being on and talking with us today. >> glad to be here. >> that was ezra klein, columnist for "the washington post" and bloomberg and also an msnbc policy analyst. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> now, ask yourself, would you -- no, not you, nancy. would you want john boehner's job right now, trying to placate a gaggle of angry tea partiers and stave off an economic calamity at the same time? i suspect there are moments even he doesn't want this job, but he's got it
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
in the senate, even as house republicans double down on symbolic spending cuts. the big breakthrough coming from the newly resurrected gang of six, a plan to reduce deficits by nearly $4 trillion in the coming decade. president obama championed the plan tuesday, and it emerged with the support of 49 senators on both sides of the aisle. house republicans, on the other hand, spent all day tuesday debating, and last night passing a cut, cap and balance, ccb proposal, that has little or no chance of surviving in the senate. senator chuck schumer described it today as dead on arrival and faces the promise of a veto if it were to reach the president, and despite digging in their heels against new ref gnaw and in favor of more spending cuts tea party walsh had a hard time explaining what cuts were in the house bill. >> why doesn't it name the cuts? >> it calls for $111 billion in cuts, chris. >> where? >> in the bill. >> you've criticized the president for not having a plan and you don't have one. >> all right. we're joined now by nbc's luke russert who covers capitol hill and nbc's mick viqueira at th
or a sensation. any sense of that? >> the big story here, absolute absolutely. whether used as a mop. a ginger head mop. >> we'll have to leave it there. i'm matt miller in for dylan. "hardball" starting right now. >>> so what's the deal? let's play some "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm in for chris matthews tonight. leading off, deal or no deal. all day long there's been word that a deal between president obama and speaker john bane zer boehner is in the works to save the u.s. from default. pub lkly both sides are denying it. it's clear adults on both sides are trying to avoid default. how do you get to an agreement when pea tae tea parters are saying no deal with tax increases and democrats are saying, no deal without them? we crunched numbers and default would seem to affect almost every american home. >>> also, does michele bachmann have mi have migraines? may be debilitated for days at time or something we would have never mentioned about a male candidate? >>> how did an anti-american terrorist become so trusted by u.s. officials in afghanistan he was allowed close eno
the spending part is a real big issue for a lot of american people. >> isn't it also the issue revenue, michael, they're not just talking about spending. they were talking about revenue when reid said, okay, fine, to the chagrin of some of es, said i'll take revenue off the table. >> what does that tell you, reverend? then you say no, we don't want to do that. >> but what does that tell you? the president has been all over the place without a plan since the beginning of is the year. the fact of the matter is at one point he wanted a clean debt bill, then was willing to accept one. at one point think say we want taxes, and then reid puts out a plan that, yeah, we'll do that. the only consistent argument that has been made is made by republicans saying no to the spending. >> no if it's reid, no if it's boehner, i mean -- >> where it gets back to the plan -- he'll sign it. >> michael, i don't understand how, in the face of the data of the american people is it that the republicans are tone-deaf or just don't care? >> i don't know. >> i don't know what kind of constitution these house republicans b
the possibility of doing something bigger. >> look, here's where things stand. there are three different big deals out there. number one is what the president and speaker boehner and eric cantor are negotiating, which is, yes, a big deal that is separate from anything the gang of six in the senate is working on. and then of course there's mcconnell-reid. one thing that's going on in the last 24 to 48 hours, is any deal that's mcconnell-reid that includes this idea of sort of the disapproval vote, giving the president more power to raise the debt ceiling, that thing has grown to the point of almost being toxic with some house republicans. in fact, they hate it so much, they may prefer to negotiate with the president directly. but for the white house, getting the 217 means making a deal acceptable to at least some of those houses with 87 new members. the man who's made himself their standard bearer, majority leader eric cantor put it this way. >> one-third of the republican conference and one-quarter of the entire house of representatives are freshmen, they're new. many of them have never served in
bachmann's job performance. >>> and rush limbaugh, hot air. hits a new high. his latest attack on big government is our con job of the day. >>> welcome to the show, i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, are we closer to a deal or disaster? president obama and house speaker john boehner may be nearing a deal for a new grand bargain on debt limit. the president is meeting with democrats right now at the white house. presumably to talk about the deal. but any agreement would have to get past the tea party republicans in the house. and democrats say, they have a problem. >> the loudest shrillest voices from the republican party are not leaders but tea party extremists. >> they group of ideal ogs have grabbed the reigns and refuse to let go. it is the group who alone wants to drive the car off the cliff. >> but now, even boehner is saying republicans must compromise. >> i believe congress must act before august 2nd and i hope we are prepared to do that. at the end of the day, we have v a responsibility to act. >>> if the united states of america's debt rating gets downgraded, every interest rat
and defending tax loopholes for millionaires and big corporations is what republicans have called for. they need to meet us somewhere. >> thank you, congressman steve israel. >> thank you. >>> joining me now, "washington post's" chris, author of "the fix." a managing editor also. let's visit this grover norquist issue. i think on tuesday in an interview with your "washington post" editorial board, grover norquist, the man famous for his anti-tax pledge, said that not renewing the bush tax cuts would not violate his pledge. listen to some of that audio released. >> not continuing a tax cut is not technically a tax increase. >> stow does not violate the pledge. >> we wouldn't hold it that way. it would be a very bad thing to do. it would raise taxes from where they are today. >> who don't follow the inside baseball the way you and i eat, drink and sleep it. what is the significance of grover norquist saying that? >> for people who don't know, grover norquist since 1985 has run a group called americans for tax reform pap d.c.-based group that does a lot of thing. basically, to hold the line on no t
. the white house rejects any sort of nine-month option. despite the drama, is a big deal still in the cards? and as thing keeps reeling, proof congress is broken beyond repair. some say this congress is the worst ever and he's seen lots and lots of bad ones. >>> to the iowa straw poll break the back of a campaign? sure looks like it. tim pawlenty and michele bachmann going toe to toe lashing out at each other. >>> good morning. this is "the daily rundown," i'm which t chuck todd. >>> house speaker john boehner and harry reid have separate plans in the works to raise the debt ceiling before next tuesday's deadline. house republicans are flat out dismissive of reid's plan for a $2.7 trillion cut since a trillion of the cuts are not really new but simply counting the saving from the wind down of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. senate republicans say reid was with them on a two-step increase process, but that the white house shot that down. and the white house says it's all up to boehner to find a way forward. now, pressure is mounting, so is anxiety over the markets. here's white house chief
backed bill included big spending cuts, a cap on spending and a constitutional amendment. >> it's a correct approach. this is fundamentally a spending problem. >> it passed in the house earlier this house. >> this vote the yeas are the 34. >> today majority leader harry reid grudgingly scheduled a senate vote. it failed just as he predicted. >> this is a very, very bad piece of legislation. >> today's vote could clear the way for one of several compromise deals. >> we all know mr. president there are talks going on between president obama and speaker boehner. >> this was a bit of hope yesterday when "the new york times" reported a possible deal between president obama and house speaker boehner. both sides quickly denied it. >> there is no deal. we are not close to a deal. >> there is no deal. no deal publicly, no deal privately. there is absolutely no deal. >> but he didn't say they're not talking about it. >> we've got to keep the lines of communication open. we talked about fall back options if in fact cut, cap and balance does go down. i do think that it's our obligation to h
this is impacting the temperatures that we're seeing. >> well, it's a big ridge of high pressure that's very strong and doesn't want to move, and we might be looking at it for a long period of time. we talk a lot about the humidity and what role that plays. your body tries to cool off by using sweat and evaporation. that doesn't happen very easily if you've got a lot of moisture in the atmosphere. coming up in the next hour, it will feel like 109 in chicago, 108 in st. louis, and the real problem for people who don't have air conditioning is what happens at night. we go to 11:00 tonight. it will still feel like 101 in st. louis. that's crazy. 95 in chicago and 89 in cincinnati, and this isn't going to change very much. again, it's a big ridge of high pressure. we talked about this heat dome gradually descending air. it's very strong and when fronts try to move in, they are redirected off to the north, and we don't get very much cool air at all. we're going to watch this ridge gradually expand a little farther east in the coming days, so it's going to be getting warmer into the northeast. by friday
committed to a big deficit reduction package because he was always going to include something that was impossible for house republicans? >> but that was -- this is where i bang head on table, right? because i am -- i'm basically a right wing person and if i can get a deal where you preserve the infrastructure of tax rates, you give up something on deductions, schedules, and credits, and you get a democratic president to say i'll go first on medicare, i'll squeeze the providers, or i will make some changes on social security, it won't work when george w. bush leads, but when a democrat leads, okay, but you have to agree in this 1 in 6, 1 in 7 thing that you don't like. i say let's explore. and the president on health care and now again on this debt ceiling, as you say, he may have been very insincere and counting on republican intransigence to save him from his words, but the words were said, the door was there. this could be the moment where republicans got a lot out of a president who asked only a little from them, overconfident they'd say know. we now see he's rightly confid
? >> quite a big one, contessa. we can report that earlier this morning the house call center the communication arm of the house in charge of all the house telephones sent out an email to members saying quote, due to the high volume of external calls to the house telephone circuits they are near capacity. some members should be receiving busy signals. several house websites crashed specifically that of speaker of the house john boehner. the question is whether or not it will transfer into some sort of change of what the status quo is right now and that really is both sides digging in quite rigidly on their plans. democrats supporting harry reid's plan the $2.7 trillion cut across the board. republicans in favor of john boehner's plan, with an extension of the debt limit. that's where both sides are still very much. >> kristen, let's talk with you about where the white house goes from here. can they capitalize on this? the people are willing to go online -- i had trouble getting on the house website today maybe not correlated to how buzzy things are, certainly with the house ph
, rational approach to it. markets, actually, if they know there's a big deal behind it will be quite -- wouldn't they, john heilemann? >> i think so. the time is tough right now. listen to harry reid and mitch mcconnell who know how the senate works and how long it takes to do the following things, to reform medicare and tax reform. they are things that typically can take many months to get done. >> isn't it a surprise? it wasn't a surprise the show started at 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. it's no surprise we have a deadline. >> to build the legislation is not something that can happen in the span of four or five days. you can't. the key issue is what obama will be wanting to see is the outlines of a deal where he has a good assurance the outlines of the deal can get past once the meat is put on the bones. if that's the case and the markets see that, everything will be fine. whether it's a few days extension or a couple weeks, it's going to take a lot to get to that point. there's no consensus on the house side among house republicans in favor of what the gang of six is doing. as we s
're going with separation. >> and david, i believe i got to go with big spending cuts in revenues. makes no sense. >> i think the president, i said earlier, has leverage at this point because republicans depicted themselves as hostage-takers ready to blow things up and the public doesn't like this. they stood their ground. pat's right about that. the tea party people would be happy to see $100 billion cut out of the next budget which is in the bill that's up this week, even if that leads tos 700,000 lost jobs. happy top do safety inspections, environmental protection. this is what they want to do and stand by -- >> let's get back to reality. back to reality -- >> no. this is the reality, pat. >> david, what about -- >> david, hold on. let pat make his case. >> let me ask you this, chris. the republicans, say the mcconnell plan has a trillion or a trillion and a half in budget cuts in it. >> i don't think it does. >> in the house it passes. they send it to the president. he's going to veto it, shut down the government and puts if default? come on. >> the whole idea, mcconnell's, separate
rupert murdoch can last. the show starts right now. >>> the big story, pressure cooker. good day. i'm matt miller in today for dylan ratigan. dylan's hard at work on his upcoming book. >>> a sweltering heat wave grips the nation, the pressure is turned up on washington tore a debt ceiling with just 12 days to go. the white house calling out the "new york times" for sending out a bad alert that obama and boehner are close to a major budget deal. listen in. >> the breaking news, reports that you all have probably received is incorrect. there is no deal. we are not close to a deal. >> in the house, the s&p pulls freshmen republicans aside for waiting to act. holding out to the last minute when the markets tank and believe the ball will be in their tank because in political pro wrestling time means levera leverage. meantime, the cut, cap and balance amendment, demanding a vote because it doesn't have a chance of survival. senator reid trying to put on the pressure with speaker boehner firing right back. >> time is of the essence. when there are people who want to cause problems it takes
picturesque morning for the last shuttle landing ever. obviously the heat is the big story, yesterday oppressive heat across the country, that has now arrived on the east coast. you will feel it this morning in the humidity levels that are much higher than yesterday. we have heat warnings in orange that spread from tulsa, chicago, pittsburgh, all of ohio and right up the busy i-95 corridor. this is the amount of moisture in the air, and that dew point is high. the heat index today going to be ridiculous. we had a chance for some near record highs. as advertised, two days in a row, it gets better by sunday. >> this is just impressive heat. it's not pleasant but it's impressive as you look at it from a distance. >>> time now for a little bit of sports and we begin with tiger woods firing his long-time caddie steve williams. this move ending a 12-year relationship where tiger won 72 times worldwide, 13 majors on his website lt gray said i want to express my deepest gratitude but i think it's time for a change. basically you can walk. woods did not say he would -- who he would replace wil
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and a beautiful summer. we ought to get outside and debate the big picture, what kind of country we want to live in, what kind of country we want this to be. that's why i like politics, roosevelt, reagan, kennedy, the stuff even young kids like me cared about. that's "hardball," thanks for being with us. "the last word with lawrence o'donnell" starts right now. >> joel burns is with us tonight to respond to michele bachmann's statement on bullying. but bullying isn't the only danger the tea party just doesn't understand. >> first of all, you don't look happy on the front page of "the new york times." >> first, speaker of the house john boehner, it doesn't get better. >> the speaker of the house is being whip sawed today between his tea party caucus. >> this is the moment of the boehner speakership. >> the plan is officially a flop. >> the budget office downgrading the revenue projections. >> told gop lawmakers to get their "blank" in line. >> get their behind in line, thomas. >> he was really cracking the whip. >> it says boehner's grip on his caucus is put to test in standoff. >> the world's sa
there will be a resolution if they stretch it out, and there is a big treasury action scheduled for august 4th, and if that were not to be sold or if the interest rates on it would have to go appreciably higher that could trigger a sell-off and another problem as well, but whether it is august 2nd, 3rd, 4th, there is a resolution of this, because the al terntives are just really too dire to conceive. >> thank you, andrea mitchell, for joining us. >>> and the man of evil, and did he really act alone? while energy developement comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing decades of cleaner burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self contained well systems and using state of the art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment we are america's natural gas. [ male announcer ] get ready for the left lane. the volkswagen autobahn for all event is back. right now, get a great deal on new volkswagen mo
picture, the big focus of it, we have studies indicating 85% of lgbt students surveyed nationally say they have been bullied at school. this is, by no means, individualized to particular school districts. >> absolutely. again, it is a nationwide problem, but there are cultures created within these school districts about how to deal with it, and you find in areas either in states or school districts where the -- they have policies prohibiting this type of activity of bullying and of prohibiting any kind of discussion about homosexuality. the suicide rates amongst lgbt teens are much lower. that's something proved out in a variety of places, the fact it's higher in anoka-hennepin point to problems there. >> joel burns, thank you for returning to "the last word" tonight. where you made your network television today buh and in the process won a glad award. thanks for joining us again. >> i'm happy to be here and i hope the congresswoman ends her silence soon. >> thank you, joel. thank you. you can have the last word
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